Yes, a Mr Unavailable can change and settle down. I am having a great deal of trouble getting to that place, but think it would make me feel very peaceful. What you are looking for in a man? Try to stay close to a friend or someone else you trust. I dont even recognise the woman I see in the mirror, sometimes. At the very least, wouldnt communicating with me be a habit since it was done more than 10 days? WE DESERVE BETTER. Drop this fantasy man and his virtual relationshipand free yourself up to find REAL LOVE with a REAL MAN who takes you into his arms and kisses you passionately like theres no tomorrow. For more tips from our co-author, including how to deal with a guy physically harassing you, read on. unlocking this expert answer. Next thing you know youre with someone who bruises your arm when he takes you by the hand and its all just normal, right? He always showing up out of the blue, its like something out of a murder movie You shouldn't have to avoid the library over this. ! When things go back and forth for so long you start to forget any of the good times and start to realize all of the crap layed at your door. fantasy You know what, Id quite like to have a pretend date! I couldnt understand why I felt so bad. Complicateds recent comments are a good example, which is why such comments arouse an emotional reaction in me. There is nothing further to debate it. I admit its extremely hard. Ive broken it once too but this time it hasnt happen because i cut every kind of contact he can have with me. (if Im so "ugly"). But, having learned a great deal, NMLs NC is working wonders. The culture, art etc are superficial you have a conflict of values that are far more important. Im thinking you may be in faux NC if you are still swimming in the stress pool of waiting for a response. The stress on you is intolerable, because you are cooperating in a self-obliteration, and demanding that you be a good sport about it at the same time. But thats the problem. And every single trace of him in your phone/computer, saved messages in the sent folder, so you wont be fighting this urge. He played so many games with me it was ridiculous. Avoidants see a relationship as stress inducing, they fear engulfment, someone telling them I love you sends them into an anxiety tailspin and they desert you until their anxiety levels falls below an acceptable level. The difference now is that I am no longer with him and now I only want a healthy relationship where the other person is fully capable and willing to give me love back without a doubt in their mind, and I know my ex is not going to do that right now. You could be with a nice group of strangers having a lovely time. Youll take two steps forward, one, two, and even three steps back and then push forward again. Hi Runnergirl, I think you might be right about my faux NC. you said: I dont regret loving, I just wish I didnt hurt so much but thats the price you pay to love someone.. Your post reminds me of a diet quote- if hunger isnt the problem,food isnt the answer. You havent lost him. Of course, I dont see this happening any time soon, nor do I see a 12-step program for misophonia popping up. Couch your report in the most adult terms possible (because just reporting what he said makes him sound like a 6th-grader, which is sad enough). ? The rest of the time I feel bad. My EUM used to do same thing hed text with some benign thing about an interest we both have its an excuse to get you to show him you are still willing to be a doormat/an option for him hes just checking up on your status on that. I put the knife in his hands and twist it around and around in my heart. But at some point they stop and do some painting, or make friends. men) has been so normalized, it has taken BR for me to realize that I seek the peace that comes from having people in my life that I trust. Is it going to go away??? By Oh yes Grace, our time is just as valuable as theirs, and they need to do their own job, and I dont need to do things for my man that he can do for himself. He probably gave it two seconds of thought and then stopped thinking about it. grace: That sounds fun actually. (Or, me for that matter.). At its worst, like when I had sarcoidosis, you dont even know where to begin when you have to figure out what is wrong because everything seems to be wrong. But nothing changed. Not the way he is. Hes married to her. It was so incredibly liberating once I sucked it up and did it. Cant believe I was once that girl who could be euphoric over SMSes of sweet nothings, his SMSes when he was in the mood to reply, were all faux assurance. When I told him I wouldnt sleep with him anymore, we went around and around about I dont even know what and it got so effed up I pulled out the tape recorder because we were in a you said, no YOU said, I didnt say.blah blah blah loop from HELL. I remember the first morning when I did not get my crumb Good morning sunshine text and the first night when I did not get my crumb text, Night, night bright spot. If you want honesty, then I will say he probably has a woman in his life already. That voice that I stifled and gagged for so long has now taken centre stage. I would feel a pang of stress over something my ex would say or do, then forget about it a few mi urea later. He just did the same thing all over again. Hard to describe. I was living in denial, stressing, lying, and treading water in a cess pool. We all need to reread Fearlesss reply aboveshe does a GREAT job of spelling it out how we get ourselves into this messAnd once we are there, have made that agreement about our worth to him, it is nearly impossible to renegotiate and ask for more without ruining the relationship. She is depressed, insecure , with ailments , does not care of herself and her behaviour screams : help me, I am an helpless woman of 55 who needs to be rescued. Include your email address to get a message when this question is answered. Its not completely off topic as it takes you down the road, that youre already on, of facing whats actually true, which is very freeing. Ixnay I think this sums up everything. I think its years of perspective, but also the non-judgmental way this post puts it, that I see how not understanding how my stress was above normal contributed to both my reactivity and my inability to process that reactivity. It is just like the work we need to do is up to us, even though in the past wed look to them for validation and approval. You could be the Queen of the frickin Universe hed still disappear. This man gets one polite notification from you. OMG!! Is there a nice way to get this pest to leave me alone? Im 37 and have loved this man since I was 19. Your post was beautiful. That way it would validate that I wasnt used and tossed aside like bagged garbageafter 4 years. Well, I dealt with THAT. Yep, everyday for a year(s), I was just left hoping and praying I could get him to respond and feel the way for me as I did him. That stress was a combination of some work stuff which in turn I was privately busting my proverbial balls about, some family clashes, and even at times child induced sleep deprivation. Done! A steer ran wild on a busy interstate. Studies show how important a hopeful, positive attitude is for recovery. I actually felt like you described me when I was the attached guy which only goes to show when you include all of the responses, how so *not* unique these situations. I was treated horribly by my exEUM, and normalized that bad behavior like crazy. Please stop. I didnt have a clue as to how much of my time I was giving away to other peopleoh, it still makes me shutter to think about how much I was putting on myselfoh, the stress. Listen, if YOU want it to be overit will be. He just knows exactly what you want to hear how is that possible? My tendency is to tell myself that Im the one with a problem trust issues. (You dont want to go out tonight and I do?! !Did you even hear a word I just said to you. Its at this moment that the trapdoor should open and he should get dunked in a load of slime. Unlike a lot of other people in my life. Its about the core, the center of your relating being so off-balance and skewed that you as a separate person with your own needs and moods, are obliterated. And If I do hear from him, I wont respond. Just Tuesday, I was studying in the library and here he comes, he had the audacity to sit on top of this table I was studying at and sat acrosslike he was posing or something. The only problem is they only enjoy dinners and movies. His wife became suspicious and got a hold of cell phone records and confronted him. I was watching SATC 2 and was struck by how unrealistic the marriage was between Big and Carrie. Of course, Ill still help if Im asked nicely or I see someone is sinking. So in a weird way, there is no you in the relationshipYou both are having a relationship with him. Thats what, for me at least, hurt so much. Though, truth be told, I really do wish you would keep it down. I have a friend who is always saying sorry for everything, sometimes I think some people get into the habit of saying it, that it just becomes second nature to them, without them realising how often they . . But you are two different people. About a month ago, he told me that it was too difficult being away from his son and he left. That was all me one tablet of relationship amnesia four times a day and one teaspoon of pretend elixir after every meal. For more tips from our co-author, including how to deal with a guy physically harassing you, read on. I could understand my stepmother having her late husbands pictures in one room or in an album. I know your pain. I think theres a certain amount of stress we can all manage with, after all wed be wrecks otherwise, but after that we can become very sensitive to it. I go to the gym and do cardio and weightlifting four to five times per week. You may think your situation is unique (I did) but, sadly, after being on this site for awhile I see it wasnt. A place for introverts. The thing is, some of these may be true or may highlight things that you need to address, but the problem is that whatever you attribute the stress to (or insecurity, misgivings etc), it will remain a stress as long as you keep thinking about or putting it to the back of your mind but not actually addressing it. hes not that special. I think shes 100% correct that you seem to be looking for solutions to fix a married man situation, which if Im being honest, if youre vocation in life is to win a married man, this is the wrong place for you. Thankfully, there are ways to stop his behavior. Is that person ever behaving differently to what I wish the world would be. Anyway, I kept e-mailing him and then went NC about a week ago. Please dont hang in there being patient and hoping. Any books by the authors are helpful as well. You dont really know him. Your post was very emotional and tug at my heart. Complicated, youve got to face the fact that he is married. This is how a bond forms and where heartbreak comes to visit. Ive learned I can forgive someone for what they have done but I dont need to forget and then be surprised again and again when they continue to hurt me. and insecure and was haranguing myself over being so upset. The Dreamer & the Shopper: Have you inadvertently found yourself in a fantasy relationship? Unsubscribe at any time. This post has helped describe what perhaps others mean when they have described me as too sensitive. If youre constantly in stress, and little things send you over the edge, as NML describes here, that must be hard to get close to. A guy of 35 contacted me liked my profile and we shared basic details then we started chatting. I don't ever go out of my way to talk to people. It stinks, its awful to be ignored and its precisely these moments of feeling weak/vulnerable that will cause you to lapse back into contact, or to use whatever ostensible reason/excuse to get back in touch. So Ive been going through the he is so amazing and Im just insecure banter all day. I had to lie too. If hes stressing about anything, its about his wife not about you, and you are feeling more sorry for him than you are for yourself! But, he's not asking! Or even worse, having doubts that you can put your finger on but you keep ignoring or attributing to something else. Were now better friends than ever, and Im fine with that. Thats where this site and your desire to work on yourself comes in. Posted November 25, 2009. I am persistent in that way. He'll text back because he actually wants to talk to you. Then little things that genuinely arent that big a deal can throw a monkey wrench in the works and have you in a serious tailspin or you start seeing rejection, problems, flaws in yourself, and a lack of options. Complicated: He cant understand why I wont reply??! you can go on like that for years. Im sorry for the emotional outburst. Not long ago another readers MMs wife busted him for his affairprivate detectiveHello??? I put so much value on what he said and thought when in the process I lost value in myself. I am now unlisted. It sucks, I know. The things my ex I did I am trying to do these with groups but everyone ignores me like I dont exist. I dont over-use alcohol. In this case, talking to your teacher is a good idea. Magnolia, I have often used the slowly boiling frog effect to describe what it was like being in my last relationship. She was married before, and her previous husband passed away more than 10 years ago. Have had enough confirmation that I am practically nothing to him (this still haunts me at night, jolts me like a bolt intermittently, in my daily life am beyond the Im so in love phase, its more of disbelief, incredulity, that I really mattered so little. He is not in the water you are treading that water all by yourself; believe me and hes not throwing you a life jacket from the shore hes turning up every now and then to wave at you and promising hes coming with the lifejacket soon. I know I have no right to complain or be ungrateful, because this is her home, but I feel as if it is really unfair to my dad. You know, I did make assumptions based on how I feel, but Ive also made them on his actions since theyve spoken louder to me than words according to him, hes not good expressing his thoughts or feelings for me. Consenting to these technologies will allow us to process data such as browsing behaviour or unique IDs on this site. That gesture made an impression on me and made it easier to love her when I realized how much she loved my father. I was ignored all day yesterday and today I texted him again telling him that all I wanted were the numbers and it would take him only one minute to send them to me. I will not be a co-dependent. I think stress can be like that. unbelievable. That was his response from the email I sent him last week detailing why we couldnt be together anymore since basically I was sooo in love with him and he couldnt show or make the same effort for me. Their wives are not niggling doubts, they are their wives, the main woman. I was a walking-talking-unavailable-available-wanna be contradiction. Yet people constantly bug the living daylights out of me about stupid nonsense. You can even do all that stuff on your own. I could see the attraction. Option, you need to save yourself thats the bottom line. Look after yourself now the person you need to really love and care for now is you. I have stifled those thoughts now so long its second nature to me I think its also cos I matter now to *me*! It's strange that somebody would be 'stalking' on another person's behalf. If feel curiosity or interest or strong liking or consistent behaviour.. I allocate time and energy to do these things. Glad you liked my post . Should I expect to end up with someone I've said "no" to early on? He would date other women and then hold on to me with one hand and it hurt so much. Order your copy (link in bio)#baggagereclaim #boundariesarehealthy #codependentnomore #peoplepleasernomore #recoveringpeoplepleaser #healthyrelationships #thejoyofsayingno Im Natalie Lue, and Im a recovering people pleaser. They dont see how their actions are perceived. For many of us A Crumb of Attention = Love, and This is Meant to Be, and I Should Treasure This! could do to break meI am used to chaos, and used to bad treatment; it is scary how some things dont bother me, and they really should! As a recovering people pleaser, Im done with jumping through hoops trying to prove myself to unpleasable people. Thats when you have to get a pooper scooper and throw him and the crap in the receptacle!!!! We can also feel like weve made a huge effort by getting out of comfort zone and look for reciprocation. You are right, this site is great for facing what is actually true. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. Decribes me perfectly. But just one more measly text message will make all difference, wont it? Wed go out, have something nice to eat, flirt a bit. In many ways I learn from them as much as they learn from me. Please note: The suggestions and advice offered on this web site are opinions only and are not to be used in the place of professional psychological counseling or medical advice. Even though things have been tough to learn growing up, its better to learn them now before we do eventually find someone worthy of our time in order to have the right relationship with someone else and ourselves as well. Two weeks ago mm told me he wanted a divorce and wanted to be with me. You couldnt tell me that I was overreacting. Go home and neither of us bothers the other again. I will run and jump to another adventure. (managed a few weeks before but caved). Also you say you dont want to lose him, but in truth, you dont have him. Everything you said makes sense,especially the part about worrying all day over something so trivial. The minute I hear that old tape, I know Im not addressing some niggling doubt, not listening to myself, and I am headed down the slippery slope. However, there isn't much that the dean or anybody else can do unless there is a compelling (and documented) pattern of harassing behavior. why doesnt he miss me. We snap all the time, but are you scared to meet me again? Its like Yeah, so Im stressed! Cut it off at the knees. Its so crucial to recognize and acknowledge stress and to even allow ourselves to experience it in its entirety, before we can even begin to resolve it. Its as if your house is on fire and youre busy re-arranging your wardrobe. His texts might be sweet, thoughtful, funny or romantic. For months on end of a man trying to hurt me continually. Committing to someone whos on the fence about you is betrayal of the self. You dont need to explain why you dont like him, but tell him simply and clearly that youre not interested. He was right, cause I allowed myself to be that. Boy, did I screw up but Im sucking it up and walking it off. Its hard to lose weight and exercise. We live in a lala land where we believe its normal for relationships start out a bit crap, ambiguous, and halfhearted but by some effort we can progress it into a proper relationship. Hes great at messaging but he doesnt want a relationship or he wouldnt have stood you up! I mean we spent a whole day last week just shopping,eating lunch and nothing physical except some kisses., Ive spent time with my male friends (bonafide friends, NOT friends with benefits) doing those things (well, minus the shopping for the most part). Weve *all* missed opportunities, weve all had failed relationships, weve all had failed friendships. Will that give me the closure I need? So true. So I send out love in my thoughts, and go on my merry way. I thought the stress I was taking on was a normal part of life. Loved this! It turns out he was emotionally unavailable but I kept making excuses for his behaviour. | You want an official relationship; he wants a shag and some sexting and for you to know your place and stay in it. You might think its rude to shut someone down when theyre bothering you, but youll be doing him a favor if youre honest with him. Over the summer he told his wife he wasnt happy and was going to stay at a friends house. Thanks to all authors for creating a page that has been read 97,182 times. Youre not stressed because youre doing NC youre stressed because youre actually fighting with yourself to welcome back someone into your life who is toxic. Notify the Dean, your friends and family. He tells you he doesnt have feelings for you which was honest. The key to making a guy stop bothering you is being clear and firm with him. I used to believe that the more stress I handled the better: I had an attitude of bring it on! . I mean we spent a whole day last week just shopping,eating lunch and nothing physical except some kisses. Meanwhile, seek out the good company of friends, treat yourself well, stay strong, focus on you, as NML always says. I have never felt so abandoned & rejected as I did at the hands of myself via these men. So many of my friends tell me how even in this state they see me as happy and full of life but I cant seem to see myself as that. !the man is trying to be very nice to me,and is..but it just doesnt feel right in the pit of my stomachsorry,ive probably gone well off track on this subject but felt compeled to add my bit..thanks Nat for such an amazing site,its helped me so much..and in 55 years old,so really should know better!! I was fearful when he was in my life thats the stress they cause I think fear. I am so grateful that I love myself enough to take care of myself now. I suggested that maybe it was a just some freakish thing and not to worry about it, but then I asked if there was anything she could possibly be stressed about man that list couldnt stop coming! Taking care of myself? You can make it x. chloe, yes you probably do need to express your hurt/anger to get better but that doesnt mean you need to express it to him. 3) He might want to lead you on to get hurt. Lots of hugs to you. Awesome Magnolia! I know I am feeling sorry for myself but damn it, how much more can a person flippin take? I have read your post and I agree that we internalize too much. I also feel as if I need to write less,is that a sign im on the way up ? Complicated Its going to take much longer than a week to gain the distance you need to see this situation with the MM for exactly what it is. Complicated, Also just wanted to say that I understand wanting him to fight for you, wanting that text that says Dont go, I love you, what can I do? 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