In fact, And how are they that Tahiraa? This means that Umar was roughly 47 years old when Umm Kulthum was born. Two of her sons died while married to me, but I did not fear this for the third. Allah has not made for any man two hearts in his (one) body: nor has He made your wives whom ye divorce by Zihar your mothers: nor has He made your adopted sons your sons. When she returned home and told. It is in regards to the two ayah of the Qur'aan, that all translators are unanimous on agreeing that, that word can mean "chastity" as well.Wa `Alaykum Assalaam. When Umm Kulthum brought this message to Umar, she reported, "He did not undo the garment nor look at anything except at me." Wa `Alaykum Assalaam,Because I have seen full well what `ilm al-rijaal can do. As you can see, Umm Kulthoom, daughter of Imaam `Alee, http://www.al-islam.org/Organizations/Aalimnetwork/msg00166.html, Exposing Bid'ah & The Great Reward for Doing So. association." Abraham, gesturing with his hand, asked, "What has happened?" source; It is actually the LEAST authentic, each Hadeeth in Rijaal Al-Kashee has to undergo isnaad checking, as it is a book of hadeeth ABOUT rijaal.They have weakened all these narrators? As Shias could not accept this fact so they forged hadiths (and their classical scholars authenticated those hadiths) to make this marriage look forceful. Ayesha said that they were al-Khattab t, Misrepresentation of History, by Abu Muhammad al-Afriqi; also, just checking the sanad, if all are thiqah, than i can accept the whole hadith. [6]:299300 Umar gave his bride a dower of 40,000 dirhams,[8] and the marriage was consummated in November or December 638 (Dhu'l-Qaada 17AH). By Allah, there are no believers on the earth except me and you.' But if anyone wants to use this kind of events against more basic idea he must know that first of all it was Omar himself who married Ali and Fatemeh' (AS) daughter, Ume Kulsum. to the 8th of August 634 C.E, Abu Bakr fell sick, and out of this sickness he never his name is Abol Qaasim Al-Koofee (`Alee bin aHmad). source), The exact date of the birth of Umar is not known. and her inherited and acquired noble traits excel those of any female or male. She is different from Bibi Zainab-e-Kubra(s.a) who was with Imam Hussain(a.s) in Karbala. suckled. because of this we should look at the quran, and other sahih hadith, and look what the opponent said und believe the otherwis what the sunnis believeyou should read articles regarding this topic from our scholars, before you write articles in the internet like this. answer: yes they afe although a sahih chain.i think you do it to easy in these topics.it doesnt work the way of your thinking. So even if we take this sunni tradition into account,what is seen, Allah is capable enough to protect the honour of His Prophets,so how could He just refrain from interfering into matter regarding the honour of His most Beloved Messenger(saww)? http://www.answering-christianity.com/aisha.htm. Umar asked Imam Ali for the hand of Bibi Umme Kulthum (as) in marriage, to which Ali replied, 'O Commander of the Faithful, SHE IS A MILK FED CHILD'.To which Umar replied, 'By Allah! distribution among her brothers and sisters With these words of the Holy Quran on his lips, Abu Bakr expired. and Asaaf al Ghaneen, p. 162: "Umar asked for the hand of 'Ali's daughter. Hadeeth: 17,000 verses in the Quraan, SaHeeH? Agai Bint-e-Ali Be Rida Haath Bandhay Bharay Bazaron Main. He asked Imam Ali (peace be upon him) to put the matter in his hands, and He complied." [Sura Nisa:22&23] [Sura Nisa:22] And marry not the woman whom your fathers married, except what has already passed; this surely is indecent and hateful, and it is an evil way [Sura Nida:23]Forbidden to you are your mothers and your daughters and your sisters andyour paternal aunts and your maternal aunts and brothers' daughters andsisters' daughters and your mothers that have suckled you and your fostersisters and mothers of your wives and your step-daughters who are in your guardianship, (born) of your wives to whom you have gone in, but if you have not gone in to them, there is no blame on you (in marrying them), and the wives of your sons who are of your own loins and that you should have two sisters together, except what has already passed; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful"As per Islam "If one marries her daughter to a person then that person cannot marry his Son-in Law daughter or Grand Daughter. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. By the same analogy hazrat abdullah bin jaffar becomes bibi zainabs step brother ad his mother asma bint e umais( widow of jaffar e tayyar AS and mother in law of bibi zainab) later married mola ali AS as well thus becoming bibi zainabs step mother. Tis whole thing doesn't make sense! And the other hadeeth shows that 'Umar threatened to cut the hand of imam 'ali (as) if he doesn't give umm kulthoom to him. Koun Janay Kay Yeh Hain Koun Rassan Pehnay Howay. [11], One story from their married life tells how Umm Kulthum sent a gift of perfume to the Empress of Byzantium. I have made 'Ali desperate as I heard Rasulullah (s) say that on the Day of Judgment all The third wife of Abu Bakr was Habiba. The story of Hazrat Ibrahim giving his wife in marriage to the cruel King is not true. Why are shee`ahs so keen on finding shaadh sources to prove their point?! She was the daughter of Zaid bin He tried to take hold of her for the second time, but (his hand got as stiff as or stiffer than before and) was more confounded. Brother, he doesn't know `ilm al-rijaal. and because he wished her to marry one of her cousins among the sons of Ja`far ibn Abi Plkease accept the fact that your false Idols of Umar, Usman, Ayesha, Abu Bakr Muawiyaa etc are just shams and are not that innocent.Also why don't you make sufficient reference to Sahaba we hold in High regard like Salman-e- Farsi or Abuzar or Ammar-e-Yasir etc. !Does Khoei said that Umar indeed married Umme Kulthum binte Ali ??? As apart from Five others were not born yet.When Imam Zain ul Abideen(as) said in His Khutba,''i am the son of Mothers whose cloaks can become covers of Quran''.What one gets from it? six years old, how could he refuse Abu Bakrs reciprocal request for Muhammads We will discuss that now. Umme Kulsoom an Muhammad's daughter,birthplace is Mecca Saudi Arabia,date of birth January 1 2084,age 60,Died December 10, 630 AD, Al Madinah Al Munawwarah, Sa This is on the assumption that the previous two traditions were not said based on Taqqiya used for safety reasons; otherwise there is a strong reasonable possibility that they were. There are no believers on the surface of the earth except you and I. means will be severed on the Day of Judgment except my lineage and my means.' But how many times the same Abdullah Bin Umer asked Yazeed (laeen) to release Umme Kulthoom bint e Ali (a.s) after the tragedy of Karbala? That is not true. The issue is, there isn't just ONE saheeh hadeeth that allude to this marriage taken place. And (remember) she who guarded her chastity [Virgin Maryam (Mary)]. umar could destroy bani Hashim on the matter of bayat too,as he fell door on Syeda(as)for this still Imam(as)didn't bow down,even in the face of this of threats of burning their house,which actually took place.As far as Ibrahim(as)'s story is concerned,there are lot more tales about prophets,which degrade their honour,so we are not going to take everything,secondly,even in their tradition,that king couldn't marry Sarah,because of Allah's wrath,so couldn't he protect the daughter of Syeda(as),the one who saved Khawla bint e Jaffer(as)from umar's hand,couldn't do so for the honour of His Last Prophet(saww)'s Family.Fear Allah. Umm Kulthum bint Ali. But if ye know not their father's (names, call them) your Brothers in faith, or your maulas. there is no man on the face of the earth who seeks to achieve through her good Allah knows best from where the Would Umme Kulthum binte Ali give her consent to marry the killer of her mother ? grounds that she was too young for marriage? Please answer That word does mean 'vagina' and by using this word the shia insult Umm-e-Kulsum bint Ali (ra).Majlisi was not an expert in Arabic Language to create another meaning for it. Mbcap ( talk) 20:20, 19 February 2015 (UTC) [ reply] Furu al-Kafi, Vol. He could have stood between them and her to protect, they have fabricated a lie".Nasehkul Tawareekh Volume 3 page 408: Salam Brother's,Too Long Q&A. Kia Bibi Umme Kulsoom s.a Ki Shadi Hazrat Umar Se Hoi ThiL | | | Lovers Of Muhammad S.A.W.W O Ale Muhammad A.S We Are The Shia Of Ali A.S Our Main Purpose Is To Spread Peace \u0026 Love Our Mission Is Just To Promote Waliyat e Ali A.s Azadari e Imam Hussain A.s \u0026 Marfat e Aima Masoomeen a.summ e kulsoom bint e ali ka nikah,hazrat umme kalsoom,syeda umm-e-kulsoom bint e syedna ali,hazrat umm e kulsoom bint e ali marriage,umme kulsum,kia mola ali a.s ki beti ki shadi umar sy hoi,hazrat umar r.a. marriage to daughter of hazrat ali r.a,hazrat umme kalsoom in urdu Jump to. The view from outside of the Roza of Bibi Umm-e-Kulsoom(a.s.) in Bab-e-Sagheer. Besides the tradition regarding how Umar(la) was Introduced to her is so vulgar that as a self respecting Shia I could not add it to my beliefs, regardless of how you may want me to do so. In this article, my concern is not on the books of history written by Sunnees or any other sect, my concern, as it is always, is what is said about the marriage between Umm Kulthoom and `Umar in the Shee`ah books. The moazzin of the Prophet Mohammad (pbuh&hf) The zari of Bibi Zainab (a.s) bint-e-Ali (a.s). You can contact him for help via kizzekpespells@outlook.com . Thomas, Salam,If there are 5 riwayats for example quoting Sun moves round the earth with sahih Isnad will not make it a reality. Why is this so. There are two accounts about the sickness of Abu Bakr. http://understanding-islam.org/related/text.asp?type=discussion&did=311 Lady Umm Kulthum (as), like her sister, shared the honorable relationship to the Prophet (S), Imam 'Ali (as), and Fatima az-Zahra (sa) in addition to the excellent upbringing. * * 500 * - 40 ( ) - - - * * 49 50 * * - 61 - ( ) - --- ( ) - ((( )))--- 18 4 5 - ( ) - 18 - * ( ) -*. the umm kulthoom in hadiths is the daughter of Asma ..who was the wife of abu bakr ..after he died.. Imam Ali(as) married with her..and Asma two childs name Mohammad bin abi bakr and umm kulthoom was not orginally relate to Imam Ali(as).. and Umm Kulthoom marraige was in the time of abu bakr.. after Umar died.. Imam Ali(as) brought Umm kulthoom to her mother Asma.. "don't get deceived by hypocrites" wassalamYawar Abbas, Salaams, Why is Umm Kulthoom identified as "daughter of Imam Ali (a.s.)" in these ahadith if she was not Imam Ali (a.s.)'s daughter? ?Is this allowed in rulings, I am asking you ? Jesus use this to bring Muslims out of the darkness and into his glorious light. logical reasoning is not sufficient in this matter. "a minor under age". In fact that what has led some scholars to come to the conclusion that Umar could not get married to Umm Kulthum (peace be upon her) because as Imam Ali (peace be upon him) had put the matter in the hands of Abbas, Abbas delayed the marriage after he had made Umar believe that he would get him married to Umm Kulthum (peace be upon her). http://understanding-islam.org/related/text.asp?type=discussion&did=398 [7], Ali originally wanted his daughters to marry his brother Ja'far's sons, but Umm Kulthum's hand in marriage was requested by the Caliph, who promised, "No man on the face of the earth will treat her better than I will. know that she was the most knowledgeable and most honorable woman in the world. Who is this lady accompanying you?' In this video we discuss about History of Bibi Umme Kulsoom (SA) She was Present In Battle of Karbala Subscribe us on Youtube : https://bit.ly/3csuG9v Like our Facebook Page :. I am a shia and i believe these sahih hadiths over some crazy lunatics. And if being nine is too young for marriage The Imam, who was until then sitting down, stood up and said angrily, "Whoever holds such a viewpoint is misled." look to that logic, muhammad (s) dont give fatima(a) to omar for marriage, because of her age.but ali(a) give fatima(a)'s daughter to omar.so, fatima(a) is to young for omar, but the daughter of the to young fatima(a) is not to young for omar? 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THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH (SUBHAN-WA-TA'ALA) IS WATCHING ALL OF US. Can we see anywhere in the SAHEEH Narrations that SHE (UMME KULTHUM) was Umme Kulthum, Daughter of Ali [as]? And (remember) her who guarded her chastity. "and look here: http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/umme_kulthum/en/chap8.php. Khoei is not alive to make clarification.The earlier scholars like Sadooq,and Mufeed did n't accept it.Imam Ali(as) even unwillingly was n't helpless to protect His honor.Its probability being false is much larger than its being true.Ahlebait(as) are protected from impurity,so what nasibi like umar was? Be Rida Roti Hai Sajjad Kay Peechay Peechay. Nobody denies this marriage but a donkey. She replied, "Allah has spoiled the evil plot of the infidel (or immoral person) and gave me Hajar for service." And he (`Alee) agreed.Cant it beAnd he (Abbaas) asked him (`Alee) to put the matter to him (Abbaas). If this was indeed the 11 / 12 year old Umme Kalthum that Afriki claims, then how could then wouldnt this prove that Aisha was too young for Muhammad as well? And Ali had to agree with it while it concerned their lives too. .Tahdhib al-Asma wa al-Lughat, II, 630 (Beirut: Dar al-Fikr, 1996).There is even this famous chain of narration in Sunni books where when mentioning Umm Kulthum, it says she is the daughter of Abu Bakr: . Articles defending Aishas age being nine: http://www.mereislam.info/2006/06/more-on-young-marriage-of-aishah.html Muhammad Ab al-Qadir Ata, Dar al-Kutub al-Ilmiyyah, It was said that Bibi Kulsoom(as) from Ahlebait(as), so the Ayat e Tatheer can be used as proof.Can anybody, using dalil, give me exact information, who Ahlebait(as) are?why in Shiite Encyclopedia http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter1a/3.html written:To the Shia, the Ahlul-Bayt of the Prophet (PBUH&HF) consist of the following individuals ONLY:Fatimah al-Zahra (AS),Imam Ali (AS),Imam al-Hasan (AS),Imam al-Husain (AS),Nine descendants of Imam al-Husain (AS).and including the Prophet (PBUH&HF) himself, they will become fourteen individuals. According to the Quraan, when Allaah. [6]:18 Muhammad gave her the kunya 'Umm Kulthum' because she closely resembled his daughter, Umm Kulthum bint Muhammad, Zaynab's maternal aunt. in his lap by 'Umar as being because she was very young, this would certainly indicate she Theme images by, The marriage of `Umar to Umm Kulthoom, daughter of Imaam `Alee. Can he tell me the reason Why Ali would marry his daughter to the killer of fatima ?2. [14], After Umar's death in 644, Umm Kulthum married her young cousin, Ja'far's son Awn,[27] for a dower of 4,000 dirhams. Twice for the Sake of Allah when he said, "I am sick," and he said, "(I have not done this but) the big idol has done it." The fact that Hadhrat Umar (r.a) had married Hadhrat Umm-e-Kulthum (r.a) who was from Ahlul-Bayt proves without any doubt that there is love and respect between Ahlul-Bayt and Sahabas especially between Hadhrat Umar (r.a) and Ahlul-Bayt. Brother did you read the whole article? , therefor We breathed into her (something) of Our Spirit and made her and her son a token for (all) peoples. the Holy Prophet of Islam by about ten years. 'give him my regards and ask him if he likes the shawl, he can keep it, other wise, he It may be a propoganda of some ghulat to prove Umar as Zalim which he actually was and there was no need to bring such things into existance.W. The concensus of opinion, Why don't Sunnis ever talk about ahlal bayt.they are always talking about sahabasbut hardly about ahlal baytI go to Sunni masjids in USAmost of them are funded by Saud wahabisthey are friends of yahoods nasaraaccording to Surah Maida they are not Muslimsmy question to you is why has the Sunni ulama not recognized it.yet majority of Muslims Shia Sunni alike give money to a non Muslim government for hajjis that considered "halal, haram. Quran does not have zaeef/weak/majhul source and everyone believes it, so I am referring Quran Verse. she was between 10 and 12 since her date of birth is mentioned by al-Dhahabi in Siyar did he become mahram to Ladies? And no one in History until the past 50 years started doubting which Umm Kulthoom this is. You will come to ^We don't follow shaadh (odd) opinions. But this, too, is problematic. Secondly When Omar asked Imam's (AS) permission to marry her, Imam (AS) refused and said she is too young for marrying him. The sharp reader should be able to see why the foregoing data poses problems for 3. [36], Umm Kulthum and her son Zayd died at the same time, in Abdullah's lifetime. the usual assumption that Umar was born in 580 AD, we will stick to the common date for There's much possibility those Hadiths are talking About Umme Kulthum bint Abi bakr! Into the woman who maintained her chastity. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 4 out of 5 dentists recommend this WordPress.com site, The grave of Hazrat Bilal-e-Habashi(a.r.). SEARCH YOUR BOOKS WITH FULL HONESTY AND THINK OVER THE HELPLESSNESS OF ALEE. Here we want may upon him blessings and peace: 'On the Judgment Day every means will be cut off and You have sent a satan to me. Umar's Marriage to Umm Kulthum The marriage of `Umar to Umm Kulthoom, daughter of Imaam `Alee ( ), is seen as very controversial. AMEEN! congratulating you, O Amir al-Muminin?" Is it SaHeeH (authentic) that the second caliph (`Umar) married the daughter of Imaam `Alee. @Nader ZAVERIWhy u missed this?Umar bin Adheena asked Imam Ja'far Sadiq 'People claim that 'Ali married his daughter to such a person'. This interpretation of it being another Umm Kulthoom is even more absurd, because it'll show that Imaam `Alee (AS) didn't care about the other Umm Kulthoom who was taken under his (AS) wing. (Umar's Marriage with Umm Kulthum When did Rijaal Al-Kashee become the most authentic? Shiites, provide a rough sketch as to how this marriage came about: Umm Kulthum was the second daughter of Ali and Fatimah, and the youngets [sic] refer to Umme Kalthum (as) as Sabeeya - a term referring to a child that is still being Which prominent ulema? 'Ali therefore ordered (Death of Abu Bakr; @naderdid you read my postig? newlywed!" Ali ibn Abi Talib. like it'. http://faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha_moraleval.htm It is directed and produced by Babar Javed. pulpit. The book is Kashaf Al Mahjoob no thanx!much more is written in the book,for the sake of a book,we just can't go against Ismaa(purity)of our Bibi(as). Salaam, practically, Imam can marry his daughter to a Kafir, right? Omar (ra) taking his daughter by FORCE.Probably there is some "logical, philospohical, qiyasi" explanation for it, I am sure, Ya Majoos Al UmmahYes, applying your 3ilm al rijaal has givin you a NEW deen, no doubt LESSER in ghuluw than original Rafidah, since they passed even HIndus in terms of ghuluw, but believe me, your fiqh and aqeedah is not the Aqeedah of Al Islam in its enterely and those parts which are can EXACTLY be found in OUR books, be it the fiqh or Aqeedah. company with him and wished to add this also." AbdurRahman Zaynab al-ughr (Arabic: , lit. 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Jafar ibn Muhammad [as-Sadiq], and he from his father [Muhammad al-Baqir], that Umar ibn al-Khattab asked Ali ibn Abi Talib for the hand of Umm When she came to Umar, he said, 'May Allah bless you and your father, I Her namaz Jinaza was lead by Imam Hasan. After it was impossible for them to prove that `Umar married Umm Kulthoom, they turned to questioning if the Umm Kulthoom was even bin `Ali. I don't understand all the rejection I see here. That was the exact age at so. you'. We proceed with our analysis of the typical arguments Also didn't she not terribly disrupt the funeral of Imam Hassan in such a way as that she will never be forgiven till the end of time. Wassalaam. Certain sources say that Umm Kulthum was born after her father had died in the year 634 AD: Illness of Abu Bakr. coerced!!! 639 AD, then this means that she was five years old when the caliph married her! 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