GROSS: So what are you doing to stay safe? Most Jews rejected Jesus' claim that he was the Messiah and especially denied that he was the Son of God. What "Gospel" Did Jesus Preach? Jesus Preaches in Nazareth. My dear elderly mother is a very good Christian, and she believes that she will die and she will go to heaven and she will see her husband. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. Now when the days of her purification according to the Law of Moses were completed, they brought Him to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord. And then you have group who saying that it's the devil doing it, that in fact, it's the forces of evil. People do not live forever. When he was on trial, on capital charges - so it was a death sentence awaiting him - he was talking with his companions about what death would be, and his view is that it's one of two things. For Paul, Jesus was going to come back from heaven and bring in God's kingdom here on Earth, and people would be raised from the dead for glorious eternity. And so I really believe that, and I'll probably always believe it. Rome had legions in both countries but not in Palestine. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. (SOUNDBITE OF MATT ULERY'S LOOM'S "OVER UNDER OTHER"), GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. It is quite dangerous to refuse the findings of science because of your personal beliefs. So I wasn't always a pleasant person to be around because I was right and they were wrong, and since they were wrong, they were going to hell. But it's not a place where you continue to exist afterwards. This is the big surprise of the book, and it's the one thing people probably wouldn't expect because, you know, when I was growing up, I just assumed. Paul sometimes simply used Christ as Jesus name (e.g., Romans 5:6). And so in terms of what I know, I'm an agnostic. One day in the synagogue, Jesus announced the purpose of his ministry by quoting Isaiah, The Spirit of the LORD is upon me, for he has anointed me to bring Good News to the poor. One is they based their predictions on the Book of Revelation. Jesus came to abolish this Law and bring a better law that meant a personal relationship with God where anyone could approach God. Eventually, he left the faith altogether. This kind of thinking, though, really came to prominence at the end of the 19th and into the 20th century and hit big prominence in 1945, when we actually had the means of destroying ourselves off the planet, which we still have, by the way. . While not much is known about Jesus' adolescent years, it is believed that he regularly attended Temple and showed an almost supernatural knowledge of his Jewish faith. About 200 before Jesus was born, there was a shift in thinking in ancient Israel that became - it became a form of ideology, a kind of religious thought that scholars today call apocalypticism. Christianity is God reaching out to people based on their terms, but in essence, religion is a man trying to reach out to God based on Gods terms, and often this is by abiding strictly by rules. And now we have the pandemic. Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the messiah. It's not that they're going to live on forever. He wasn't raised in Israel; he was from outside of Israel. And so this is what the later Paul has to say, and this is the beginning of the Christian idea of heaven and hell, that you can exist - even though your physical remains are dead, you can exist in the presence of God in heaven. Luke 2:21-23 And when eight days were completed [a]for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb. Jesus was an observant Jew who perfectly followed the Law. Those that believed him, became Christians. Answer: Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit ( Matthew 28:19 ). My writing has been featured in various publications includingLeadership Journal,Ministry Today, Outreach,andThe Church Executive. Bart Ehrman, welcome back to FRESH AIR. Catholics vs. Atheists: How are they different? When we skip the good news and start our presentations of the gospel with Youre a sinner own it admit it repent of it or else then we make the good news seemnotvery good. Jesus answered him, 'It is also . Muslims believe Jesus will return at the end of the world to fight alongside the Mehdi, a Muslim leader, to defeat Satan and the Anti-Christ. They weren't Jews. It is the required response of sinners to the gospel, and it is the offer of a good Savior to the broken. You could, I suppose, use the word plague, and the word, you know, plague is in the Hebrew Bible. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. When he became convinced that Jesus was raised from the dead, he thought that the resurrection had started. EHRMAN: I would say not so much. (Did Jesus need to be baptized?). And so Jesus taught that the kingdom of God, this new physical place, was coming soon, and those who did not get into the kingdom were going to be annihilated. Jesus himself held to the apocalyptic view that I laid out. But I personally think, probably, this life is all there is. It wasnt self-help gibberish or mystical, pithy sayings. But if we do, it'll be something pleasant like that. GROSS: When you were 15 and became a fundamentalist evangelical Christian, what would you have believed about the pandemic? As he grew up and began to preach, he did not distinguish his faith from Judaism, which dates back to the Bronze Age, however, his claim to be the Son of God disturbed many at the time. We'll be right back and talk more about the history of heaven and hell. (SOUNDBITE OF PETROS KLAMPANIS' "EASY COME EASY GO"). The time promised by God has come at last! he announced. And so I don't - it's not that I think that I believe only rational things and everybody else is irrational. But it's not what you believe. Eight days after his birth, he was circumcised to observe the Jewish laws, and a sacrifice of a pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons was also given in observance of Jewish customs. https://www.islamic-invitation.com/downloads/did-jesus-preach-islam_eng.pdf Was Jesus Christian or Muslim https://www.islamic-invitation.com/downloads/jesus-christian-or-muslim_eng.pdf Jesus A Prophet of God https://www.islamic-invitation.com/downloads/Jesus-a-prophet-of-god-muslims-jesus_eng.pdf Did Jesus Preach Islam? Jesus was a Jew. We absolutely may do it to ourselves this time, but it won't be a prediction - a fulfillment of predictions of a prophecy; it'll be because of human stupidity and refusal to act in the face of crisis. And, you know, this time we may have it right. You know, California was on fire. What type of Judaism did Jesus belong to? What Religion Was Jesus? There have always been people who actually picked a time when it's going to happen. So this is a really important shift for understanding both the history of later Judaism and the history of later Christianity and the historical Jesus. Job Board Did Jesus Heal and Preach to Only Jews? In the Old Testament, what we would call the soul is really more like what we would call the breath. God is punishing us. I try to respect everybody's views. Judaism was built on the Mosaic Laws, which is what even Jesus preached and taught, as implied in the Bible. I think Andy Griffith is historys greatest show, George Washington is historys greatest president, and Reeses Pieces is the best food group. So this must be what Jesus taught. What ends up happening is that, over time, this expectation that the kingdom was coming soon began to be questioned because it was supposed to come soon and it didn't come soon, and it's still not coming, and when is it going to come? The temple curtain was torn in two, which many Christians believe signified the abolishment of the Law and the coming of a new one. Bart Ehrman says the ideas of eternal rewards and punishments aren't found in the Old Testament or in the teachings of Jesus. I have to deal with this in my book, where I try to show that, in fact, the Book of Revelation does not describe eternal torment for sinners in the lake of fire. a Jesus tirelessly shared this positive message for three and a half years. While not much is known about Jesus' adolescent years, it is believed that he regularly attended Temple and showed an almost supernatural knowledge of his Jewish faith. They report that Mary was a virgin when Jesus was conceived and that she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:18; cf. The gospel isreally, really good newsfor broken sinners. EHRMAN: Just to go out in my yard. Passages such as Acts of the Apostles 2:36 show that some early Christian writers knew that the Christ was properly a title, but in many passages of the New Testament, including those in the letters of the Apostle Paul, the name and title are combined and used together as Jesus name: Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus (Romans 1:1; 3:24). My passion for the Christian faith made me pursue a degree in Religious studies and a Masters in Theology. That Christianity grew, after such a brief inception, into the world religion we know to today is testimony to the power of the message Jesus preached. Traditionally, Roman Catholicism has understood the church to be instituted by Christ. And I think the content of Scripture ought to be presented in a way that connects with the brokenness and deep-seated needs of its audience. EHRMAN: I think that - I'll speak from the Christian tradition, which I still cherish even though I am no longer a Christian, there are aspects of Christianity that I resonate with because they're so deeply ingrained in me. You get both of those explanations. It was good news, but there was a call to action. And so Sheol is sometimes portrayed like that. This is the view that is fairly consistent throughout the New Testament, starting with Jesus. For the Gospel's Jesus, the dictum, "Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you . Sometimes Sheol is translated by the word hell, and it absolutely is not what people think of as hell. But in Greek circles, going way back to Plato and before him, that was absolutely the belief. And as I say in my book, as we'll probably get to, it may be true that we will live after we die. Many of Jesus teachings are around the Mosaic law, as he observed it keenly. Existence is entirely bodily. Why is Jesus called the Lion of Judah (What does it mean)? He's a distinguished professor of religious studies at The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. Jesus also made several trips to attend worship and teach in synagogues, as mentioned in Biblical passages found in Mark 1:21; 3:1; and John 6:59. And so all of the imagery of death and destruction and disease and war in the Book of Revelation is used to show what terrible measures God has to take in order to destroy the forces of evil that are completely - have completely infiltrated the human world, before he brings in a new world. Today, Christians in Israel are still called Notzrim. Judaism has a strong religious tradition that stresses God could not share any mortal attributes, so it could not accept Jesus as the Son of God who was both human and divine. By Jack Jenkins. There are lots of different religions that people have called gnostic. They were gentiles. This was the role to which I was called in the summer of 2010 and I now continue this ministry remotely while planting Grace Hills. But he is a prophet nonetheless, and the greatest prophet the world has ever known. As you said, this is going to be what my next book is on, is about how people have misinterpreted Revelation as a prediction of about what's going to happen in our future. And people started thinking, well, you know, surely I'm going to get rewarded, you know, not in some kingdom that's going to come in a few thousand years, but I'm going to get rewarded by God right away. His books such as "Misquoting Jesus" and "How Jesus Became God" challenge a lot of beliefs and common wisdom. Facts About Christ Before Christianity Began Jesus Christ is revered by Christians as the Son of God and come Dec. 25 (and a little later for some other denominations) believers around the world will celebrate the founder and namesake of the world's largest religion. There started to be a belief that reward and punishment would be right after death, as opposed to after the Messiah comes. . Cohen: Samuel Ungerleider Professor of Judaic Studies. And the graphic imagery in the book has really contributed to all of these interpretations of Revelation. We have, you know, plastics in the ocean, ice caps that are melting. BART EHRMAN: We're all well. Ebook Group Facebook https://facebook.com/groups/910443580183189/ Did Jesus Preach Islam? In virtually every case, we're told that it's because God is punishing people. But other than that, no. No, Jesus being a Jew does not mean that all other Christians who follow Him should be Jews. Luke 2:27 And he came in the Spirit into the temple, and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him according to the custom of the Law. Luke is a little more specific about one of Jesus earliest messages. [10] He is the central figure of Christianity, the world's largest religion. Eventually, Jewish thinkers began to reason that it didn't make much sense because there were times when they would be doing what God told them to do, or at least they'd be doing their level best to do what God told them to do, and they'd still be suffering these plagues. As we speak, is there any kind of advice you're getting in North Carolina about how to behave? If I'm brought into the presence of Christ at the resurrection, and, you know, there's a gap between the time I die and - what happens to me during that gap? I'm a shamanic practitioner that understands that all labels are cognitive in nature,' he says. Addictions can be broken. So that would be great. Jesus fully subscribed to the Jewish religion, culture, and nationality. He even quoted the Hebrew Bible most times in His teaching. EHRMAN: Well, I think those views - I mean, I respect believers. And people generally point to these passages in the Book of Psalms that talk about Sheol, or Sheol. Jesus Christ is revered by Christians as the Son of God and come Dec. 25 (and a little later for some other denominations) believers around the world will celebrate the founder and namesake of the world's largest religion. Judaism has a strong religious tradition that stresses God could not share any mortal attributes, so it could not accept Jesus as the Son of God who was both human and divine. After his death he came to be called Jesus Christ. I mean, when you die, you stop breathing. What was his vision of what happens after death? I like to hike, drive in the country, and write about anything that happens to be on my mind. His new memoir is called "War Doctor: Surgery On The Front Line." Pastors hear the statistics, and they grieve us. Jesus also regularly attended worship sessions in the synagogues where he taught. And so I'm - my wife and I have been completely self-isolated for a week now, and we're going to stay this way. You get it everywhere in the writings of the prophets in Amos and Isaiah, etc. You teach in the - at The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. I was born in Bowling Green, Kentucky. His message wasnt motivational fluff. Your forthcoming book that you're working on now is going to be called "Expecting Armageddon." 41:17 41-Minute Listen Playlist Download Embed Transcript Bart Ehrman says the ideas of eternal rewards and punishments aren't found in the Old Testament or in the teachings of Jesus.. We're not going out. [ivory-search id="86" title="Default Search Form"]. Most people probably don't subscribe to either one. Nobody frets about it or gets upset by having it. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. In one Bible story, a 12-year-old Jesus is separated from his parents and found three days later discussing Judaism with religious teachers who were stunned by the young boy's extraordinary knowledge. Thus, Jesus practiced first-century Judaism religion. Jesus taught that the Old Testament was the Word of God in seven ways. He has sent me to proclaim that captives will be released, that the blind will see,that the oppressed will be set free, and that the time of the LORDs favor has come.. They write new content and verify and edit content received from contributors. Mark, who was first to write an inspired biography of Jesus, jumps right into Jesus adult years and gives us a summary introduction to Jesus ministry with these words, Later on, after John was arrested, Jesus went into Galilee, where he preached Gods Good News. Jesus mainly taught in line with the Judaism religion. One of the reasons we doubt the power of the gospel is because we fail to understand that Gods Kingdom is both now, and not yet. Dont change. GROSS: We have to take a short break here. Your breath doesn't go anywhere. Our view that you die and your soul goes to heaven or hell is not found anywhere in the Old Testament, and it's not what Jesus preached. There are many mysteries surrounding the God-man Jesus, but one that keeps coming up is, what religion was Jesus? And of course, belief in heaven and hell has done a lot of good; it's also done a lot of harm. Jacob was a con-man, Isaac was ignorant of God . He is described as often being on the forefront to advise others to obey and follow the Law of Moses and even give sacrifices. By the fall of 2010, we knew that God wanted us to plant a new church in northwest Arkansas. I also oversee the content and online community of Pastors.com and Rick Warrens Ministry Toolbox. But at the end of the day, here is the non-negotiable core of all good preaching preach thegood newsof Jesus, and invite people to embrace him byrepenting of their sins and believing in him alone. My first book,Rewired, is set to release in the winter of 2014. Before Christianity, the religion that was followed by many was Judaism. The soul was immortal and would live forever in Greek thinking. Keep reading this article if you want to know if Jesus was born and raised as a Jew, if all Christians are Jews, what religion was followed before Christianity, and much more information surrounding religion and Jesus. EHRMAN: Yes. Jesus Christ is revered by Christians as the Son of God and come Dec. 25 (and a little later for some other denominations) believers around the world will celebrate the founder and namesake of the world's largest religion. He ascended from His throne in heaven to interact with humans on Earth. Jesus, as mentioned in the Bible, came to fulfill the Law. I'll occasionally walk around the block if nobody's around. They are wiped out. Long after his death, Jesus became an important figure in a third Abrahamic religion, Islam. Omissions? He also adhered to the Judaic practices of feasts such as the Passover. We have climate change and extreme weather and earthquakes and volcanoes. And I still think that Socrates is the one who probably put it best. Paul, in his earliest letters, affirms that view of the imminent resurrection. It's not an accident that that came into Christianity after the majority of people coming into the Christian church were raised in Greek circles rather than in Jewish circles because in Jewish circles, there is no separation of the soul and the body. EHRMAN: Well, I - you know, I've read about death and thought about death and the afterlife for many, many years now and what - you know, what philosophers say and theologians say and biblical scholars say and, you know, what people generally say. Gnostics disagreed with the Jewish idea that at the end of time, God would raise the dead physically. We'll talk more after a break. And so he came up with the idea that he would have a temporary residence up with Christ in God's realm, in heaven, until the end came. GROSS: You've talked about how belief in the end times led in a circuitous way to belief in heaven and hell. All this is a true reflection that Jesus dominant religious influence was from the Jews around him, his parents, relatives, friends, and associates, and they played a huge role in Jesus ascribing to the Judaism religion. He's a distinguished professor of religious studies at The University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. Islam also states that Jesus was crucified, but rejects the notion that he was killed on the cross. It would be the resurrection of the nation. GROSS: So what do you believe about death now, about what happens after you die? Jesus was born into a Jewish family and raised as a Jew. You know, you write in your book that it's hard for you to conceive of God as being a sadist who would torture people for eternity in hell. Mark 1:44 says, and said to him, see that you say nothing to anyone, but go, show yourself to the priest and offer for your cleansing what Moses commanded, for a proof to them. It's because of, you know, those LGBTQ folk, you know, who are allowing promiscuous activity. I'm wondering if you're hearing that kind of thing, too. I have a different set of beliefs. Luke (2:4152) states that Jesus as a youth was precociously learned, but there is no other evidence of his childhood or early life. Why Did Jesus Weep (What Does The Bible Say About Jesus Weeping). Because he spoke of the "Kingdom of God," Jesus was sometimes referred to as "King of the Jews," a charge that eventually saw him found guilty of sedition and crucified by Rome. John the Baptist (c. 1st century BC - c. AD 30) was a Judaean preacher active in the area of the Jordan River in the early 1st century AD. Muslims revere Jesus as one of their holiest prophets and, like Christians, believe he was conceived miraculously by his mother Mary through God's intervention. GROSS: So does that mean you're not leaving the house at all? They're not? I have to show that in my book, and I lay it out and explain why it's absolutely not the case that Jesus believed you died and your soul went to heaven or hell. But it is also due to a much simpler and . His calling to repentance and faith is both a command and an invitation. And so it appears that the ancient Israelites simply thought that when you died, your body got buried someplace. The body is a cosmic disaster. Angie and I have talked in hypothetical terms about church planting for nearly a decade, but when we joined the staff of Saddleback Church in southern California, almost immediately God began to make His calling on our lives a concrete reality. And those 30 trillion years is just the beginning? The proper name Jesus was Greek for the Hebrew Joshua ("he who saves"). The belief that Jesus is God, the Son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish theology. You simply - it is going to be a disaster for some way - somewhere, on some level, for the economy, but it'll be a worse disaster if we are out in public because we could be spreading the virus. So suffering now must be rewarded later, and wicked behavior now must be punished later. And in fact, it's not right. The Bible, in many instances, mentions that Jesus observed ceremonies such as the Passover feast. As a result, it was those "unbelieving" Jews who he condemned and ordered his followers to murder (Luke 19:27). They take it very seriously. I've heard a lot of joking lately about how it's the end times. And thanks for having me back. According to Matthew and Luke, however, Joseph was only legally his father. The life is in the breath. I mean, my view is that, you know, people have always been concerned about death, about what happens to them when they die, and so that's why I took on this book in the first place. Like, I'm sure you don't want to talk them out of their beliefs. For Gnostics, the idea of being raised in your body was repulsive. When Jesus came to earth, He knew exactly what He had to do. Luke 1:35). But then people started thinking, well, wait - is that fair? Our engineer today is Adam Staniszewski. I probably would have subscribed - I would have subscribed to either the view that God was upset and we needed to repent so that he would relent, or that the devil - it was the devil doing it, and we needed to pray to God for mercy and for him to intervene on our behalf. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. In the United States, Jesus is used to prop up politics on both sides of the aisle. He observed the Mosaic Law and practiced Jewish feasts, commandments, and ordinances. Deliverance is both gradual and eventual. June 6, 2023 at 5:18 p.m. EDT. And he is said by conservative Christians to support their theology while liberal Christians think Jesus is. Sign up and stay up to date with our daily newsletter. And we all just hope that it doesn't lead to even further disaster. Therefore, he practiced everything that pertained to the Law and fulfilled it according to Matthew 5:1718. Are Jesus and John the Baptist cousins (how is Jesus related to John the Baptist)? No! After attending the Moody Bible Institute, he studied at Princeton Theological Seminary, which introduced him to texts and interpretations that led him to a more liberal form of Christianity. Jesus preached the best news the world has ever heard with an invitation FOR people to turn from sin, trust him, and have their lives changed forever! He called them to a radical commitment to believe and trust in him. "Let he that is without sin among you, let . 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